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		<title>Coaches With No MLB Playing Experience Are Autographs Worth Collecting; Hope Is Coming!</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Al Vincent: Never a day asan MLB player. But thecoach was a HOF storyteller! This week, baseball address king Harvey Meiselman posted some hopeful news on http://www.sportscollectors.net/. Harvey is listening to collector wishes. He noted more than one request for including coaches in next year&#8217;s Baseball Address List. Aren&#8217;t all coaches? Only those with at ... <a title="Coaches With No MLB Playing Experience Are Autographs Worth Collecting; Hope Is Coming!" class="read-more" href="https://www.baseballbytheletters.com/2011/09/01/coaches-with-no-mlb-playing-experience-are-autographs-worth-collecting-hope-is-coming/" aria-label="Read more about Coaches With No MLB Playing Experience Are Autographs Worth Collecting; Hope Is Coming!">Read more</a>]]></description>
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<td style="text-align: center;">Al Vincent: Never a day as<br />an MLB player. But the<br />coach was a HOF storyteller!</td>
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<p>This week, baseball address king <a href="http://www.sportsaddresslists.com/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Harvey Meiselman</a> posted some hopeful news on <a href="http://www.sportscollectors.net/" target="_blank" rel="noopener">http://www.sportscollectors.net/</a>.</p>
<p>Harvey is listening to collector wishes. He noted more than one request for including coaches in next year&#8217;s <em>Baseball Address List</em>. </p>
<p>Aren&#8217;t all coaches? Only those with at least a game of major league playing experience. A former player who found a second career coaching will be still be listed in the main section. He&#8217;s continued to recognize these men in the List by noting their playing debut dates. </p>
<p>Harvey is talking about having a supplemental section&nbsp;as part of the list just for these&nbsp;coaches without a day of MLB playing time. He cited Cincinnati&#8217;s Mark Berry as an example.</p>
<p>Harvey estimated that he&#8217;d need to invest 70-100 hours of labor to find all the living coaches from this unique category of baseball history. Think Mike Quade, before he became Cubs manager.</p>
<p>I learned what rich sources of history these forgotten men are when I wrote <em>Remember When: A Nostalgic Look at America&#8217;s National Pastime</em> (Metrobooks, 1996). I tracked down career minor leaguer <a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/bullpen/Al_Vincent" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Albert Linder Vincent</a>, who joined the Detroit coaching staff in 1943. </p>
<p>Vincent wrote me a multi-page letter telling about his career. In 1938, as a Texas League manager, he had his batters wear football helmets for 5 innings (years before the majors adopted batting helmets). Baltimore&#8217;s use of an oversized catching mitt to handle future Hall of Fame knuckleballer Hoyt Wilhelm? It wasn&#8217;t manager Paul Richards with this brainstorm, but Vincent.</p>
<p>The partial list of players he coached in the minors is impressive: Dizzy Trout, Virgil Trucks, Hal Newhouser, Fred Hutchinson, Wally Post, Joe Adcock, Alex Grammas, Joe Nuxhall. Future managers Danny Ozark and Mayo Smith played for Vincent. </p>
<p>Vincent added, &#8220;You would have to ask them if they were aided by my efforts.&#8221; Seeing the many winning teams he led, I know the answer.</p>
<p>Vincent wrote me: &#8220;Coaches are non-entities by and large, and lose their identity in the job, the exception being an established star giving a coach credit. It happens, but all too seldom.&#8221;</p>
<p>He died in 2000. I want to give all the Al Vincents credit. I want to write to them all. Please, Harvey. Help us find them, while there&#8217;s still time to save these stories.</p>
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